Econ to Icon

Econ to Icon is a podcast about influential people whose careers began in economics and went somewhere remarkable — into politics, journalism, business, markets, even music. Each episode, hosts Paul Johnson and Michael Kell talk to someone who has been at the centre of the economic and policy decisions that have shaped our lives. Paul — former Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, author of Follow the Money, and one of Britain's leading economists — explores the substance: the policy choices, the economic ideas, and what economics got right and wrong. Michael — economist, former Treasury and IMF official, and now a careers coach — explores the person: the turning points, the risks taken, and what it is actually like to build a long career around economic ideas. The result is a podcast that sits at the intersection of economic thinking and human experience. If you're studying economics, working in policy or public life, or simply curious about how interesting careers unfold, we hope you'll find something here.